Live Or Die

NZ Retired

(AU )

p2, 1:51.8 $728,264 15.3hh

Die Laughing - Mica Lobell by Temujin

  • Progeny won OVER $60 MILLION to date
  • Sire of EIGHT individual Group One DERBY WINNERS
  • 18 GROUP ONE WINNERS including the CHAMPIONS Divisive, Just An Excuse and Elect To Live
  • Has a PROVEN and HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL record of UP-GRADING a mare's family.


Die Laughing
No Nukes
Makin Smiles
Oil Burner
Gidget Lobell
Most Happy Fella
Dottie Shadow
Gogo Playmate
Real Hilarious
Meadow Skipper
Voodoo Hanover
Shadow Wave
Mica Lobell
Ms Romeo Waverly
Race Time
Silk Stockings
Good Time
Breath O Spring
Most Happy Fella
Maryellen Hanover
Romeo Hanover
Little Hostess
Dancer Hanover
Romola Hanover
Victory Song
Abbe M
Maternal Family

Sire Line

Die Laughing - Outstanding son of No Nukes

Die Laughing won 15 races at 2 & 3 years, taking marks of p2, 1.52.2 & p3, 1.51.2f on his way to earning $2,164,386, winning over $1 million in both seasons of racing.

A very successful sire when standing in the US with earnings over $32,000,000 & 136 in 1:55 (411 in 2:00), Die Laughing is now making a name for himself as a broodmare sire with the likes of Silent Swing p, 1:49.4 $1,120,007, Artbitration p, 1:52.0 $708,454, & Laughing Art p3, 1:50.8 $682,807 etc.

Dam Line

Mica Lobell - Temujin from Ms Romeo Waverly by Romeo Hanover

An unraced daughter of Temujin, Mica Lobell has left 10 wnrs - all in 2:00 - incl. 8 in 1:57. Apart from world champion Live Or Die, her best wnrs are Sea The USA p3, 1:53.6 $765,521 whose wins included the Sheppard Pace & Presidential Power p, 1:52.8 $218,993.







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At 2, Live Or Die's major victories were the $600,000 Governor’s Cup, International Stallion Stakes, Bluegrass Stakes, American National, a Breeders’ Crown elim (3rd in Final), Woodrow Wilson elim (2nd in Final) and a division of the New Jersey Sires’ Stakes (2nd in Final).

At three, Live Or Die was plagued with injuries & illness during this campaign but was racetimed in 1:53.2 when 2nd beaten a head.

At four, Live Or Die's trainer Bob McIntosh believed he had just sorted his three-year-old problems out when the horse was sold ‘Down Under’. He won his last start in 1:52.6.


Live Or Die has been one of New Zealand's leading sires from the moment his progeny hit the tracks - with champion filly Elect To Live his first official winner.

From leading First Season Sire in 2000/01, Live Or Die has risen to become one of the country's most influential sires and in a season that saw him produce four individual Australasian Group One winners he was appropriately NZ's Champion Pacing Sire for the 2006/07 season. He has since continued to churn out winner after winner at the highest level with the 2008/09 season seeing him leave three Australasian Grand Circuit winners as well as a Derby victor.

To date he is the sire of over 1230 individual winners of more than $55 million in stakes and has left 113 $100,000+ earners. 

Some of his best performers incl.

DIVISIVE p, 1:56 $1,280,097 26 AUS/NZ wins. At 2, AUS 2YO Pacer of the Year, wnr, G1 ht/semi final/Final AUS Breeders Crown. At 3, AUS 3YO Pacer of the Year, wnr, 12 wins incl. ht/Final G1 VIC Derby, G1 NSW Derby, G1 AUS Derby, G1 TAS Derby, ht & semi Final AUS Breeders Crown; 2nd, G1 AUS Breeders Crown. At 4, wnr G1 Noel J Taylor Mile, Listed Paleface Adios Sprint, 2nd G1 NZ Messenger, G3 Bankstown Cup, Listed 4YO Emerald. Aged, wnr G1 Miracle Mile, G3 Shepparton Gold Cup, Listed Pure Steel, 2nd, G1 Inter Dominion Pacing Chsp Final, G1 WA Pacing Cup, G1 Freemantle Pacing Cup, G2 Inter Domion Semi-Final. (Smooth Fella)
JUST AN EXCUSE p4, 1:55.6 $1,047,157 17 NZ/AUS wins. At 4, NZ 4YO Pacer of the Year, wnr, G1 NZ Messenger Chsp, G1 Noel Taylor Mile, G2 Superstars Chsp; 2nd, G2 Kumeu Stk, G2 Elliott Futy. Aged, NZ Aged Pacer of the Year, wnr, 2 G1 NZ Cups, G1 NZFFA, G2 Ballarat Cup, G2 Nth Shore City Stk, ht Auck ID Series, ATC Spring Cup; 2nd, G1 Auck Cup, ATC Spring Cup; 3rd, 2 hts/G1 Final Auck ID Series, G1 NZ Cup, G1 NZFFA, G1 VIC Cup, G2 Ash Flying Stk, G2 Nth Shore City Stk. (Smooth Fella).
BONDY p, 1:57.6 $826,848 23 wins to date. Wnr G1 Hunter Cup, G2 Kaikoura Cup, G3 Inter Dominion Heats x 2, Hannon Memorial, Northern Southland Cup, Listed Avon City Ford Cup, Winter Cup, 2nd G1 NZ FFA, G3 Invercargill Cup, 3rd G3 Hannon Memorial, Fitness Canterbury Classic. (Falcon Seelster)
POWER OF TARA p, 1:56.3 $747,248 22 wins to date. At 4, 2nd G1 Taylor Mile, 3rd G2 Superstars 4YO Championship, G3 Cambridge 4YO Classic. Aged, wnr G1 Fremantle Pacing Cup, G2 Launceston Cup, G2 City Of Auckland FFA, G3 Paul Renwick FFA, Listed Spring Cup, Listed Winter Cup, Listed Maurice Holmes Vase, 2nd G2 Waikato Flying Mile, G2 Franklin Cup, G3 Searells Chartered Accountants Classic, 3rd G3 Kumeu Stakes, G3 Manukau Summer Cup, 4th G1 NZ Cup, G1 NZ FFA. (Soky's Atom)
ELECT TO LIVE (f) p3, 1:55.5 $577,800 19 NZ/AUS wins. At 2, NZ 2YO Filly Pacer of the Year, wnr, G1 CC Fillies Classic, ht/Final G1 NZ SStks Chsp, G2 NZ Breeders Prod Stk; 3rd, G1 NZ Juv Chsp. At 3, NZ 3YO Pacer /Filly Pacer of the Year, AUS 3YO Pacer/Filly Pacer of the Year, NZ Pacer of the Year, NZ Horse of the Year, wnr, G1 AUS Derby, G1 NZ Oaks, G1 GN Oaks, G1 NSW Oaks, G2 Golden Mile, J L Raith Mem, ht/Final NSW 3YO Chsp, ht NZ SStk, GN Stk; 2nd, NZ SStk Chsp; 3rd, ht Nevele R Fillies Series. At 4, 3rd, GN Breeders Stk. (Lopez Hanover)
BOLD CRUISER p, 1:56.8 $574,801 27 wins. Aged, wnr G1 Tasmania Cup, G2 Kilmore Cup, G2 Moonee Valley Cup, G2 Mildura Cup, G2 Renshaw Cup, Listed Nyah Cup, Listed Casey Cup, 2nd G3 Shepparton Gold Cup, G3 Geelong Pacing Cup, 3rd G2 Legends Mile, Australasian Plate Final. (Holmes Hanover)
OUR MALABAR p, 1:52.8 - $537,090 36 wins. Aged, won G2 Inter Dominion Consolation, G2 Celebrity Sprint, G3 Geelong Pacing Cup - twice. (Falcon Seelster)
WAIPAWA LAD p, 1:54.2NZ; 1:52:2US $505,211 23 NZ/US wins to date. At 3, 2nd, ht Sthn Supremacy Series. Aged, wnr, G1 NZ FFA; 2nd G3 Hannon Memorial, 2nd Listed Central Otago Trotting Cup; 3rd G1 NZ FFA, G2 Flying Stks, G2 Kaikoura Cup, G3 Fitness Canterbury Classic, Listed Avon City Ford Cup. (Caprock)
SCANDALMAN p3, 1:55.0 $501,035 19 wins. At 2, wnr G2 Tatlow Stks, G2 Linden Huntley Memorial. At 3, wnr G1 Victoria Derby, NSW Derby Heat, 2nd G1 Northern Derby, 3rd G1 NZ Derby, G1 NSW Derby. Aged, won G2 Inter City Pace, G3 Oam Cup. (Holmes Hanover)
p, 1:50.8 $467,815 33 wins, including G2 Mount Eden Sprint, G3 Bunbury Sprint. (Smooth Fella)
p, 1:55.8 $465,928 24 wins, including G1 ht & final VIC Derby, 3rd G1 AUS Derby, 3rd G1 NSW. Aged, wnr G2 Shepparton Gold Cup, G2 Horsham Cup, 2nd G1 Len Smith Mile. (Village Jasper)
SAUCY LEGEND p, 1:51.6 $435,386 31 wins. Aged, wnr G2 Newcastle Mile, G3 Menangle Winter Cup, G3 Be Good Johnny Sprint, 2nd G2 Bohemia Crystal FFA. (Preux Chevalier)
DANCE OF LIFE p3, 1:56.6 $336,778 22 AUS wins. At 3 wnr G1 Victoria Oaks, G1 QLD Oaks, G3 Gold Bracelet Final, Listed J L Raith Memorial, 3rd G1 AUS Oaks. Aged, wnr G1 Queen Of The Pacific. (Smooth Fella)
LIVING ON FIRE p3, 1:56.9 $317,323 22 wins. At 2 wnr, G1 Vicbred SS Final, 2nd ABC Semi Final. At 3, wnr G1 SA Pacers Derby, Listed Caduceus Club Classic, 2nd G1 AUS Derby, G1 Vibred Super Series 3YO Final, 3rd G1 VIC Derby. At 4, wnr G3 4YO Bonanza. (Even Odds)
CAPTAIN PEACOCK p3, 1:58.0 $283,934 12 wins to date. At 3, wnr G1 NZ Derby, 2nd G2 Southern Supremacy Stks. (Sands A Flyin)
TUHERBS p4, 1:54.7 $210,777 9 NZ wins. At 2, wnr, G2 NZ Welcome Stk (on debut), ht NZ SStk; 2nd, G1 NZ SStk Final; 3rd, ht NZ SStk. At 3, 2nd, ht NZ SStk; 3rd, G2 Rising Stars 3YO Chsp. At 4 wnr G1 Easter Cup. (Fitch II)
LIVELY EXIT p3, 1.56.2 $215,617 16 AUS wins. At 2, wnr, ht & Semi Final AUS Breeders Crown, VIC Alabar Classic; 2nd, G1 ht/Final AUS Breeders Crown, ht/semi final VICBred Series, ht Kevin Seymour Series, ht Linden Huntley Series; 3rd, G1 VICBred SS Final. At 3, wnr G1 SA Pacers Derby, Listed Newcastle Derby, 2nd G1 AUS Derby, 3rd G1 NSW Derby. (Fake Left)
(IM) MARK ANTONY p2, 1:58.2 $181,018 16 NZ/AUS wins to date incl G1 TAS Derby. (Falcon Seelster)
LADY TODDY p, 1:57.7 $176,059 13 NZ wins. At 3, 3rd, ht Nevele R Fillies Series, ht Sthn Supremacy Series. Aged, wnr, G1 NZ S’Bred Breeders Stk, NZMTC Winter Cup, Central Otago Cup, Canty S’bred Breeders Stk; 3rd, G2 PGG Mares Chsp, Rga Winter Cup, Oamaru Cup. (Talk About Class)
LIVELY MOTH (f) p3, 2:00.1 $180,300 13 wins to date. At 2, wnr G1 Vicbred Super Series Final, G2 Tatlow Stks. At 3, wnr Vibred Super Series Heat, 2nd Listed Vic Gold Chalice. (Classic Gary) OUR MALABAR p, 1:53.3 $502,663 32 NZ/AUS wins to date. Aged, wnr G2 Inter Dominion Consolation, G2 Celebrity Sprint, G3 Geelong Pacing Cup, 3rd G1 WA Pacing Cup, 3rd Listed Terang Pacing Cup. (Falcon Seelster)
LIFE OF LUXURY p, 1:51.0 $459,505 12 NZ/US wins. At 2, wnr, NZ Ylg SS Sthn Graduette, ht NZ SStk Fillies Series; 2nd, G1 NZ SStk Fillies Chsp; 3rd,  ht/Final NZ Ylg SSeries. At 3, wnr, NZ Ylg SSeries, ht Nevele R Fillies Series; 3rd, G1 NZ Oaks, G2 Ladyship Stk. At 4, 3rd, G2 Canty Premier Mares Chsp; 3rd, G2 City of Auck FFA. Aged, wnr,  Lady Liberty Final. (Soky's Atom)
MIRACLE MAN p, 1:50 $376,945 14 NZ/US wins to date. At 3, 2nd, NZ Ylg SS Final. At 4, wnr, G2 Franklin Cup, G2 Cam Classic, G2 Kumeu Stk; 3rd, G1 A G Hunter Cup, G1 Noel Taylor Mile, G2 Elliott Futy. Aged, wnr, ATC Spring Cup 3rd,  G2 Franklin Cup, G2 Nth Shore City Stk. (Nat Lobell)

Live Or Die has proven to be equally as successful as a broodmare sire with his daughters leaving numerous Group 1 performers including:
TERROR TO LOVE p, 1:51 $2,429,978. 31 wins. Won 3x G1 NZ Cups, 2x G1 Harness Jewels, G1 Taylor Mile, G1 Auckland Cup, G1 Easter Cup, G1 Cranbourne Cup. (Western Terror)
p, 1:53.6 $716,520 25 wins to date. At 2, wnr G1 2YO Emerald, G1 Sires' Stks 2YO Final, G1 Welcome Stakes, G2 Young Guns Cardigan Bay Final. (Art Major)
p, 1:53.7 $682,514. 25 wins. Won G1 Bohemia Crystal FFA, G2 Shepparton Cup, G3 Methven Cup, 2x G3 Hannon Memorials, G3 Invercargill Cup, 2nd G1 Hunter Cup. (Falcon Seelster)
DEVIL DODGER p, 1:50.8 $678,278. 35 wins to date.  At 3, wnr G1 AUS Breeders Crown Final, 2nd G1 3YO Emerald, 3rd G1 Northern Derby. (Mach Three)
LIBERTYBELLE MIDFREW p, 1:53.9 $640,497. 19 wins, incl G1 Golden Nugget Championship, G1 WA Oaks, G2 Inter Dom Heat, G2 Mt Eden Pace. (Christian Cullen)
MUSTANG MACH p, 1:52.6 $505,330 32 wins to date, incl. G1 Ford McInerney 4YO Classic, G1 NZ Messenger Championship. (Mach Three)
LIZZIE MAGUIRE p3, 1:55.1 $477,366 11 wins. At 2 wnr Listed Harness Jewels 2yo Diamond Final, 2nd Listed Yrlg SS 2yo Final, 3rd G1 NZ SS Fillies Chshp, G1 Caduceus Club Classic. At 3, wnr G1 Northern Oaks, Listed Yrlg SS 3yo Final, 2nd, G1 AUS Breeders Crown Final, Listed 3yo Diamond Final, 3rd, G1 AUS Oaks. (Christian Cullen)
ELUSIVE CHICK p, 1:53.1 $418,586. 13 wins including G1 Harness Jewels, G3 Ranji Bill Stakes. (McArdle)
ROCKNROLL MAGIC p3, 1:54.5 $407,473. 22 wins incl. G1 AUS 3YOF Breeders Crown Final, G1 Vicbred Super Series 3YOF Final, G2 Tatlow Stks, G2 Southern Cross 3YOF Final. (Rocknroll Hanover)
CHANCELLOR CULLEN p, 1:55.4 $407,303. 22 wins incl. G1 McInerney Ford 4YO Classic, G2 Kilmore Pacing Cup. (Christian Cullen)
CHARLIE MACHSHEEN p, 1:53.6 $295,035. 17 wins incl. G1 Vicbred Super Series 2YO C&G Final, G3 Victoria Sires Classic. (Mach Three)
ESCAPEE t, 1:59.5 $272,783. 11 wins incl. G1 NZ Trotting Derby, G1 Northern Trotting Derby, G3 Hambletonian Classic, G3 NZ Trotting Oaks. (Sundon)
GOTTA GO HARMONY p2, 1:59.7 $205,909. 4 wins incl. G1 Harness Jewels Diamond. (Christian Cullen)
MORTON PLAINS p, 1:56 $193,445. 11 wins incl. G1 Vicbred Super Series 3YOF Final, G3 Redcliffe Oaks. (Bettor's Delight)


Mating Hints

As an outcross sire Live Or Die is suitable for the majority of mares in Australasian and has a tremendous record of enhancing a mare's family.

To date Live Or Die has been particularly potent with Smooth Fella mares - with his two millionaire sons Divisive and Just An Excuse both bred this way, Albatross line (Holmes Hanover and Soky's Atom) and Falcon Seelster mares - Power Of Tara, Bold Cruiser, Life Of Luxury and Scandalman by the former two and Bondy, Our Malabar, Im Mark Anthony the latter.

In addition to Holmes Hanover, Soky's Atom, Falcon Seelster, Elsu and McArdle mares Live Or Die is also a great match for Cam Fella (Presidential Ball, Bettor's Delight, Fake Left, Washington VC) line mares, with the highly promising but ill-fated Lively Exit bred this way being out of a Fake Left mare.

As an outcross sire he also crosses well with other
No Nukes line sires as well - eg. Caprock (Waipawa Lad, Tidal Franco), Village Jasper (Tanabi Bromac) and Badlands Hanover (Lord Jowers) mares.

Direct Scooter line mares are also a suitable match.